{"id":84376,"date":"2025-04-30T10:51:28","date_gmt":"2025-04-30T01:51:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.waseda.jp\/top\/en\/?p=84376"},"modified":"2025-04-30T11:34:26","modified_gmt":"2025-04-30T02:34:26","slug":"podcast-column-a-professors-work-supporting-stateless-people","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.waseda.jp\/top\/en\/news\/84376","title":{"rendered":"[Podcast Column] A Professor\u2019s Work Supporting Stateless People"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The first 8-episode series of Waseda University\u2019s English podcast \u201cRigorous Research, Real Impact\u201d is currently streaming for free on <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/61VF3lETynCBuXt1AxXjXK?si=3eba847f8061431e\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Spotify,<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/music.amazon.com\/podcasts\/e0aa1340-7af7-4227-9361-88eecc575214\/waseda-university-podcasts-rigorous-research-real-impact\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Amazon Music<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/waseda-university-podcasts-rigorous-research-real-impact\/id1777915569\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Apple Podcasts<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/playlist?list=PLeA0hDJkLYZDjs3b58eEZ1WnkvNJf9e9R\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">YouTube<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><iframe title=\"Spotify Embed: Stories of Statelessness: An Auto-Ethnographical Account Part 2 (Invisible Individuals: Real Barriers; Rights, Identity, Justice)\" style=\"border-radius: 12px\" width=\"100%\" height=\"152\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen allow=\"autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; fullscreen; picture-in-picture\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/2SUo5BMvnJetD6neTrbCXe?si=1Wr46kmVSMqfRyAEJBBOyQ&#038;utm_source=oembed\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>In episode 2, the conversation with <a href=\"https:\/\/w-rdb.waseda.jp\/html\/100001229_en.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Professor Lara Tienshi Chen<\/a> of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.waseda.jp\/fire\/sils\/en\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">School of International Studies<\/a> continues. She introduces the impactful work she has done to support people who are stateless and shares her views on how society needs to change so they can live comfortably. Below is an excerpt from the episode.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.waseda.jp\/top\/en\/news\/82589\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-82590\" src=\"https:\/\/www.waseda.jp\/top\/en\/assets\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Episode2_WASEU_160_15_Social_creative_Sept_09_2024_Banner_Option_02-2000x2000.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"2000\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.waseda.jp\/top\/en\/assets\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Episode2_WASEU_160_15_Social_creative_Sept_09_2024_Banner_Option_02-2000x2000.jpg 2000w, https:\/\/www.waseda.jp\/top\/en\/assets\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Episode2_WASEU_160_15_Social_creative_Sept_09_2024_Banner_Option_02-610x610.jpg 610w, https:\/\/www.waseda.jp\/top\/en\/assets\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Episode2_WASEU_160_15_Social_creative_Sept_09_2024_Banner_Option_02-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.waseda.jp\/top\/en\/assets\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Episode2_WASEU_160_15_Social_creative_Sept_09_2024_Banner_Option_02-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.waseda.jp\/top\/en\/assets\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Episode2_WASEU_160_15_Social_creative_Sept_09_2024_Banner_Option_02-2048x2048.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.waseda.jp\/top\/en\/assets\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Episode2_WASEU_160_15_Social_creative_Sept_09_2024_Banner_Option_02-290x290.jpg 290w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" \/><\/a>You can read the full transcript by clicking the above episode banner. <\/p>\n<h2>Question: Can you tell us about the NPO you founded, Stateless Network?<\/h2>\n<p><strong>Professor Chen:<\/strong> The \u201cStateless Network\u201d is an organization that supports stateless people, and it was founded in January 2009 to join with stateless people and take seriously the trouble they face and to work toward creating a society where people would not face discrimination for not possessing a nationality. There are various types of stateless people. Among them are those who do not have legal status and their concerns are very serious. They aren\u2019t able to return to the country from which they were originally from and their lives in Japan are very restricted. Some cannot even work or go to hospital and so on. The Stateless Network is raising awareness about these issues both in Japan and abroad and is aiming for a society where stateless people can also live in comfort.<\/p>\n<h2>Question: What do we need to do to support stateless individuals in society? \u00a0<\/h2>\n<p><strong>Professor Chen:<\/strong> That\u2019s very important. I think in today\u2019s social system, they take nationality for granted. And many times, human rights are based on nationality. If you have a nationality, then your human rights start from it. But I think it\u2019s a bit strange, you know, because human beings are already there no matter their nationality whether it is Japanese or, you know, Indian or without any nationality, we do have to give human rights to these people. I think that today\u2019s society is a bit, you know, opposite&#8211; from the top down, but not from the grassroots. I am, as an anthropologist, I try to face one by one every individual and support them with what they need. When they say they need healthcare, we [the NPO Stateless Network] try to connect them to the people providing healthcare. And when they say they want to get married, we try to find the information for people without, you know, nationality. So, they can have a stable marriage or end up meeting their goal. I think that\u2019s very important as a human being to see every individual as having an equal right. That\u2019s what I\u2019m trying to do, not to see every individual from the top down and give the nationality, then your human rights start. You know, that\u2019s the opposite of what I think.<\/p>\n<h2>About the Guest:<\/h2>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter  wp-image-84377\" src=\"https:\/\/www.waseda.jp\/top\/en\/assets\/uploads\/2025\/04\/Lara-picture-with-orange-dress-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"760\" height=\"507\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.waseda.jp\/top\/en\/assets\/uploads\/2025\/04\/Lara-picture-with-orange-dress-2.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.waseda.jp\/top\/en\/assets\/uploads\/2025\/04\/Lara-picture-with-orange-dress-2-610x407.jpg 610w, https:\/\/www.waseda.jp\/top\/en\/assets\/uploads\/2025\/04\/Lara-picture-with-orange-dress-2-768x513.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 760px) 100vw, 760px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/w-rdb.waseda.jp\/html\/100001229_en.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Professor Lara Tienshi Chen<\/a> obtained her PhD in International Political Economy from the University of Tsukuba. She went on to conduct research at the Chinese University of Hong Kong, Harvard University, and the University of Tokyo. She worked for the National Musuem of Ethnology, Osaka prior to joining Waseda\u2019s School of International Liberal Studies in 2013. Professor Chen is also the founder of the NPO Stateless Network and works closely with the student volunteer club Stateless Network Youth.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The first 8-episode series of Waseda University\u2019s English podcast \u201cRigorous Research, Real Impact\u201d is currentl [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":84407,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[81,117],"tags":[355,379,178],"class_list":["post-84376","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news","category-topic","tag-highlight-en","tag-podcast-en","tag-research-en"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.waseda.jp\/top\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/84376","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.waseda.jp\/top\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.waseda.jp\/top\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.waseda.jp\/top\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.waseda.jp\/top\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=84376"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.waseda.jp\/top\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/84376\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":84412,"href":"https:\/\/www.waseda.jp\/top\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/84376\/revisions\/84412"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.waseda.jp\/top\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/84407"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.waseda.jp\/top\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=84376"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.waseda.jp\/top\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=84376"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.waseda.jp\/top\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=84376"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}